From head shape and color, i think it was a coachwhip, a young one at around 3ft. I haven't been able to find any photos of a brown racer, so i can't compare. The only reason I was confused is that i read that a coachwhip would have the same color belly as back, which we have seen was not accurate.

I'm not ignoring the poster who said there are no coachwhips in LBL, but can you provide some documentation of that? I can only find that they are in TN...

I frequent camden, paris and dover. Do you know any specific spots known for speckled kings? I use to see them quite often when I was growing up but haven't seen any recently and would like to.

Also, my digital camera (FujiFilm S700, cheap, but has good reviews), "should" be here on the 7th and i can get some photos of my own snakes as well as what i find on my nearly every weekend camping/hiking.

Again, once i get the disposable camera's pics developed i'll compare more details and see if i can come to a positive id.

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