I have heard of a few other albine crotes from California.I know for sure that there is a piebald ruber in someones collection.It is not the one from Rubios book either.It has produced hets.It ia a long story but the guy who produced hets will not sell them or is he interested in breeding them back to prove them out.kind of kills me.The guy is kind of s rich wierdo.
I also know of an albino Oreganus.There are hets from them.

I know there were are some leucistic sidewinders,If I am correct they were produced by a guy in Idaho.I know the guys that had the hets.Some were sold off as normals as they could never get pics of the parents to prove what they had to potential buyers.I do not think that they had pairs.only males or females but i do not know which anymore.

A friend just returned from a place that is a winder heaven.They found a winder that had three quarter sized spots on it that were snow white!!!Sorry to say that it was found dead.

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