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RE: Death Adders are Elapids... WHY?

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Posted by: yasin1 at Mon Nov 24 11:46:56 2008   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by yasin1 ]  
   

No need to be sorry.

However, when there is a phenotype, there is a genotype behind it. And here we see a lot of phenotypes of vipers in a so called elapid. Again it is not a single trait but multiple traits that resembles vipers here.

Also, I have been expressing my desire to find some kind of a genetics analysis on Death Adders because that can be the only reason of placing these buggers in elapidae except for the fact that they live amongst elapids. Thanks for sharing those links with us. They weren't as helpful as I would have wished for them to be but I found an article from the references section of one of your articles that can be helpful.

http://www.anu.edu.au/BoZo/Scott/PDF Files/1998.Keogh.ElapidOz.pdf

It looks like there is some 16S RNA studies done on Death Adders but they were used to compare them to other Australian Elapids. The phylogenetic trees were then constructed with the assumption that Death Adders are Elapids and branched from a common Elapid ancestor.

This is not what I am looking for. For example, if I assume that people and rattlesnakes share a close common ancestor, I can build a phylogenetic tree showing this. However that assumption would be idiotic, won't it?

What I am looking for is a comparison of a Death Adder's 16S RNA analysis with an asiatic elapid's and an asiatic viper's 16S RNA analysis to see, which are more closely related. I hope I am more about this than I was before.

AND AGAIN

I am not saying that Death Adders are vipers. I am probably just missing something crucial here that would clear my doubts but according to what I have seen and read SO FAR, they resemble vipers much more than elapids.
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