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RE: Death Adders are Elapids... WHY?

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Posted by: WW at Thu Nov 27 16:16:32 2008   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by WW ]  
   

>>How does morphological evidence places Death Adders in Elapidae?
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>>How do you know genetics evidence will place Death Adders in Elapidae if you do not compare it with anything else but Elapidae?


As per the analogy in the previous post. If Acanthophis were anything other than an elapid, that would pretty rapidly become obvious in phylogenetic analyses, as Acanthophis would then obstinately fail to group within the elapids. It's not exactly a subtle nuance.

See some of the following:

Greer, A. 1997. The Biology and Evolution of Australian Snakes.
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Kelly, C.M.R., Barker, N.P., Villet, M.H., 2003. Phylogenetics of advanced snakes
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Keogh, J.S., Shine, R. & Donnellan, S. 1998. Phylogenetic
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K. L. SANDERS, M. S. Y. LEE, R. LEYS, R. FOSTER* & J. SCOTT KEOGH (2008) Molecular phylogeny and divergence dates for Australasian elapids and sea snakes (hydrophiinae): evidence from seven genes for rapid evolutionary radiations. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution

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Slowinski, J.B. & Keogh, J.S. 2000. Phylogenetic relationships of
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