Now we totally agree. My passion has always been for the animals. At times breeding and selling can confuse us and we may temporarily forget whats important.

Now that you have empty cages, you can come up with some very good experiments(tests).

The last thing i would like to say is, Science is to ask questions, not to make answers. The answers will come, and come again and come again. Science is always correcting itself. So, its not the conclusions that are important, its that we keep asking the questions.

If we SEE something that animals do naturally and its against what we read(science says) they do. Our task is to figure out the animals, not tell them they are wrong and the book is right.

Another statement you made is very good. This stuff makes the animals much more interesting, thats what you said. The reality is, science WANTS to pigeonhole animals. That is, seperate everything into little boxes, so they can teach it. The truth is, behavior cannot be pigeonholed so easily.

My partner and I wonder why science gives these animals so little credit. They want to make them simple and easy, but its not all that simple to live like they do. Cheers

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• Happy Snake Families - Tony D, Thu Feb 12 11:12:06 2009
• I was going to say - Dobry, Thu Feb 12 13:28:07 2009
• RE: I was going to say - Tony D, Thu Feb 12 13:44:04 2009
• "No captives?" - BobS, Thu Feb 12 14:27:07 2009
• RE: "No captives?" - Tony D, Thu Feb 12 14:52:07 2009
• RE: "No captives?" - BobS, Thu Feb 12 16:33:10 2009
• RE: "No captives?" - FR, Thu Feb 12 19:23:54 2009
• RE: I was going to say - Dobry, Thu Feb 12 18:02:48 2009
• RE: I was going to say - FR, Thu Feb 12 21:27:18 2009
• After a re-read... - Tony D, Fri Feb 13 08:44:53 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - BobS, Fri Feb 13 10:44:21 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - Tony D, Fri Feb 13 17:25:31 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - BobS, Fri Feb 13 17:28:25 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - Tony D, Fri Feb 13 21:11:19 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - DISCERN, Sat Feb 14 00:57:53 2009
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• RE: After a re-read... - DISCERN, Sat Feb 14 12:41:30 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - Tony D, Sat Feb 14 13:25:48 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - BobS, Sat Feb 14 14:16:48 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - Tony D, Sat Feb 14 14:54:37 2009
• cool nm - BobS, Sat Feb 14 15:19:10 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - BobS, Sat Feb 14 10:58:53 2009
• RE: After a re-read... - antelope, Sat Feb 14 20:45:39 2009
• RE: Happy Snake Families - FR, Thu Feb 12 17:11:58 2009
• RE: Happy Snake Families - antelope, Thu Feb 12 18:10:47 2009
• agreed! - Dobry, Thu Feb 12 18:34:06 2009
• RE: Happy Snake Families - Spankenstyne, Thu Feb 12 20:52:14 2009
• RE: Happy Snake Families - markg, Fri Feb 13 12:38:14 2009
• RE: Testing a paired female - FR, Sat Feb 14 11:26:24 2009
• RE: Testing a paired female - BobS, Sat Feb 14 12:16:06 2009