Frank I see what you mean. You'd get beef jerky on a stick. The problem I am havng with this is trying to incorporate these sound field observations into something realistic in a typical herpers cage environment(mine).

After reading your post about alien analogies it made me think of some alien catching a roofer while roofing a house. The guy lives IN the house not ON it.(I'm getting it a little? ) This also makes me appreciate the concept/simplicity behind a nice sizeable/spacious rack.It would be like the above aliens providing a slide out 1st or 2nd floor of a house complete with a running water bathroom, warm living room, bedrooms(hides)and a cool back porch (Cool hide).

I hear what your saying I think?

I looked at some monitor sites to try to understand some of the things you are proposing.Implementing those things in a eye pleasing enclosure is hard to incorporate and seeing the animals is quite a bit of the enjoyment. Certainly you want to meet their needs.

Pics of those large type monitor setups are functional with those slanted Retes stacks and the monitors wedged into them on dirt foors looks comfy but, Wow.OOOOOgly! (I know, there is a beauty in functional) lol.

The other concept of that filling a cattle trough with 800lbs of dirt. PVC pipes into boxes buried into it and a glass box stuck on top to maybe once in every great while see the tail of a Pyro. well that also is kind of ....not practical for a typical herper and at least to my tastes also OOOOOOOgly. No insult intended.

The other thing I have seen that incorporates those things is where a zoo uses fibeglass etc.in a glass front enclosure and simulate the tunnels and chambers that prairie dogs and the like use. VERY eye appealing but so undoable for a limited skilled hobbyist like me.

I am percolating on the things you say and appreciate your thoughts as I'm sure a lot of other folks here do to.

thanks,
Bob.
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