Zach. I appreciate your input but I beg to differ. I realize ANY snake in a wild state does not want to be SEEN. SEEN = eaten. That's a given.

My experience. And yours may in fact be far greater than mine, is that one of the nice things about Pyros is that they are not usually real nervous animals and seem to be smart enough to early on realize you are not a predator but a bringer of food and and the person who makes it easier to breathe (waste gasses can be heavier than air and thats GOT to be awful to breathe in for any animal from just a normal husbandry point)I'm not saying I'm welcome in their world but tolerated.

While I must be open to the idea that mine normally display well in cages (I have others) perhaps because they are just out looking for more suitable places to hide that I am not providing(my possibel bad) I get the impression they are one of the more appropriate display Lampropeltis there are in a captive environment.

We all have to balance our desire to see them and provide good care. In the past when I have done very elaborate cages like you picture I have asked myself "what is the point" I never see them and when I do they are hissing,musking and biting not to mention I've almost squished them when they tunnel under heavy rocks or when trying to find them when showing them to other hobbyists on a visit over. Honestly I have to ask myself if I really care about them why am I even keeping them in captivity in the first place?

Thanks for the input. I think it's important we consider all these things.

Bob.



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Sometimes I think the kid with two pet snakes has something that those of us with 50 to 200 lost a long time ago.

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