good post. Another part of establishing that relationship is returning to talk to them even if they've told you no. I used to have a field book to write down their names and what we talked about. It makes a good impression when you go back a year later and ask the owner BY NAME how he's doing and if he's seen any reptile activity. More times than not they relent and let you on. Some of my best spots are on lands where I was initially denied access.
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