Also, I think limiting a certain ssp into certain parameters such as size isn't a reliable method as far as being absolute..........what happens if a specimen is 2 cm over the limit? Does that automatically make it an intergrade?



Genetic potential certainly plays a key here, and like the reduction or absence of white speckling under the chin, size can probably be line-bred as well.



Is there any DNA analysis between the 2 ssp? Obviously the CNAH regards the 2 as different ssp and they use the DNA analysis for much of their taxonomic decisions. Note, I am certainly not claiming they are bulletproof.........not by a long shot.



Indigo X Mexican = Indian King ........j/k , however I can't see the 2 hybridizing with the consistency that's being witnessed.
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1.0.0 Lampropeltis getula holbrooki

0.1.0 Lampropeltis getula californae

0.0.1 Lampropeltis getula nigra

1.0.0 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri

2.3.0 Eublapharis macularius macularius

0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus

0.1.0 Gerrhosaurus major major

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