Okay Thomas! So now your calling me a lier!

Nice, real nice Thomas! First off, I am not the only

person that has observed this. You believe, what you want.

I love how you have jumped on the Frank Retes bandwagon, yet

you contradict what Frank has said about keeping our snakes

in the "sweater box" method. Why don't you go change your Capri-Sun boxes and aspen bedding. How do you explain away the observations of several breeders Thomas? If you have a realistic

and well thought out theory, than I'm all ears, but I do not appreciate being called a lier. These are the effects of varied

incubation temps that I have observed with Triangulum, Zonata, and Pyromelana. Nothing more and nothing less, and I'm not the

only person that has experienced this. Bob Macken, via pers. comm., explained to me that he had incubated Annulata at 85

that were almost melanistic. When they reached maturity,

were bred together, and incubated at 75, and produced normal

looking offspring. The clutches that were incubated at 85,

also produced melanistic offspring. Now, being curious, and not

completely closed minded, I tried this experiment myself. What do you know, I had the same results. None of the eggs incubated at 85 produced kinked offspring, but two out of four eggs did not hatch. Okay, I did lose some of my eggs, but Bob has not had this problem, and there are other variables involved. The fact is this has produced some vary interesting results. On the other hand the cooler eggs had no fatalities, and produced offspring

with cleaner reds. Can you explain this away Thomas? I'm all ears!

-Phil
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Work is the curse of

the drinking class!

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