...I have 4 and the bottoms are all fish box bottoms...been that way for 15 years....I use them for balls...need the height...(all started with a guys' burm clutch ...really needed the height)....

....think.......I use a temp gun...am right now starting up my first Hova of the year....as we all do...I open it and take a temp of the substrate....88.9 89.2 90.3...etc etc......as soon as you open the lid the temp drops REALLY fastly....

....so...thought....I took a temp of the lid as soon as I opened it a few times.....98 99.....get the thought....if you have eggs up too close or up in between the coil even...they are cooking at 99 and more.....

(no wonder balls on top hatch first, and if the pile is too tall...they might hatch a week and more early...or die..)...been there....

....check the temps...

for colubrid I use the shelf above the sink...around 82 with spikes all over up to.....88....

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