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Posted by: Bluerosy at Tue Apr 14 15:08:36 2009   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Bluerosy ]  
   

how can the originators have been wrong? Can't they call it whatever they want to? Why not simply come up with a new name for the "TRUE GHOST" (I like "Spectre"? Unless you are just saying the "old ghost" is not consistent with what we consider "true ghost" to be in other species?

Ahh well the older ghosts were really just hypomelanism that someone wanted to give a more catchy name without knowing any better.

I think were the confusion comes from is when someone like the OP (original poster) asked HOW he can make a Ghost. That is what i was answering so there would not be any confusion. Otherwise he would be still trying "to make" a ghost when in fact you can't when he was reffering to the Cal king. A Ghost is commonly known as a double homo axanthic/anery x Hypo. Just like a "SNOW" is a T negative albino x axanthic/anerythristic.

Anyone originating anything can call it whatever they like since they are the first person to have it. But it would behove them to be better informed about what is going on in gentic names in books like Dr. Bern Bechtel and corn and Ball python gentics as well as Burmese gentics to preperly market them.. Though not even those corn-python gentics are all in line with each other.

The Ghost rosy boa was also misnamed. Now they called it a "hypo" because there are true Ghosts being made-(axanthic x hypos) in rosy boas. So the hobbiest have corrected that. I wish everyone would pay attention to cornsake gentics so we all could be on the same page. But I also belive their can be special exceptions to the rules. For example the Peanut Butter is a type of hypo even though it is unusual and is a allelic with the T negative. Whitewall speckled kings could have been labled Whitesided speckeled kings but the name "Whitewall" is expressive enough in my book. At least it is not called Enchanted Forest king or whatever.lol! But the Ghost desigantion for a hypo will confuse newbies to the hobby unless they spend some time learning history.


And not every originator that comes up with a catchy name has it stick forever... The Licorice stick ratsnake is now properly labled "Whitesided" on breeders lists and tables. Just because someone is lucky enough to breed two normal looking (unkown hets) together and produce something does not make them the experts in the hobby. It could be and has been young teenagers that got lucky or someone finding a new morph while field collecting and have not even sold a single smnake before then.. Usually what happens though is somebody else picks the project up from that person and markets them anyway.
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