Hello Randy......
I mentioned cheap paint for THEM to maybe use....

my cousin had a baby ball get the duct tape off a cage and lost a bunch of skin and some meat....don't know if used oil to get it off....just warning people....

I just take gallon jugs (Turkey Hill Dairy iced tea daily) cut the top ,rinse in hot water well, get some moss ,run under hot water to wet it, wring it out well, rip it up and half fill the jug....I try and cut them to go to the top of the boxes....some females can still flip them, pueblan is doing it this year...crazy snake.....I have when needed just used some damp cloth towel,paper towel,carefresh wetted,and even shredded wetted newspaper once for giggles....they lay in it.....

I don't have them lay outside the jug....I have had them lay under the paper, but I think it was due to me not getting the nest in there in time....my fault...sometimes they don't take the 10 days after shed to lay....(one sina-king-corn laid the day before the shed once, and probably ate the day before that...she was cool)...

and I never had a female king eat it's eggs like the other poor guy ...that is bad.....I haven't done that many kings but I have done some .....a friend would have the male eat them...I asked why the male is still in there he would say I didn't know if she took...so I kept him in there.....don't try this at home...LOL....

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Alowishus Devadander Abercrombie

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