"I think the whole glades rat theory is based on isolated populations in the everglades region that were no longer isolated when the glades region was pumped for farming. These isolated populations are now encroached upon by the more typical looking yellow rats located further north"

Exactly Kevin, that is the deal precisely. Their former moister habitat has been encroahed on by the Yellow Rat that enjoys a drier habitat then rossalleni.

BTW, I have caught MANY nice bright pure Yellow Ratsnakes in the 70's due east of the Everglades as well in Broward County just a couple miles from the beach.

Things have drastically changed in the past few decades in that area, and as you mentioned, there is generally much more geneflow from the yellow now, although there are still a few nice Everglades that can be found in certain areas from time to time.

I'm going snake hunting with Tom Crutchfield sometime soon down in southern Homestead to see if I can find a nice female for the male Everglades I have here. Hopefully I can also locate some nice brooksi and maybe some Scarlet Kings there too..LOL!


~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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• Pure Glades? - monklet, Sat Dec 12 12:11:38 2009
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• Thanks Kevin n/p - monklet, Sun Dec 13 09:42:29 2009
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• Okay Horshack!.......... - DMong, Tue Dec 15 12:47:44 2009