Your pic here, really shows off the "sayi" sp. characters. This proves some of the difficulty in i.d.-ing certain pits with unknown locality. I would not have known that this animal was an intergrade. The animal in the pic that started this i.d discussion above shows (imo) less of the "typical" Sayi and more on the gopher side. As you said and proved with your pic Ginter, it would be tough to i.d. without exact locality and or breeding background.

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• Bull or gopher? - cochran, Wed Jan 13 14:56:05 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - KevinM, Wed Jan 13 16:08:07 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - tspuckler, Wed Jan 13 17:03:36 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - mattcbiker, Wed Jan 13 17:04:03 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - cochran, Wed Jan 13 18:27:54 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - mattcbiker, Wed Jan 13 22:38:06 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - BigHairy8s, Wed Jan 13 22:27:31 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - spyiii, Wed Jan 13 23:06:51 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - pyromaniac, Thu Jan 14 16:14:45 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - reako45, Thu Jan 14 23:03:56 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - ginter, Fri Jan 15 11:08:36 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - RossCA, Fri Jan 15 11:24:09 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - spyiii, Fri Jan 15 20:34:01 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - ginter, Sat Jan 16 09:51:41 2010
• Ginter - spyiii, Sat Jan 16 22:49:00 2010
• RE: Ginter - ginter, Sun Jan 17 21:44:49 2010
• Stull?... - monklet, Tue Jan 19 16:38:46 2010
• RE: Stull?... - ginter, Wed Jan 20 10:36:04 2010
• RE: Bull or gopher? - antelope, Fri Jan 15 21:55:06 2010
• C'mon John... - monklet, Sat Jan 16 10:52:48 2010
• RE: C'mon John... - ginter, Sat Jan 16 11:04:40 2010
• RE: C'mon John... - mattcbiker, Sat Jan 16 11:13:06 2010
• Wow, thanks n/p - monklet, Sat Jan 16 11:21:26 2010
• RE: C'mon John... - BigHairy8s, Sat Jan 16 13:34:18 2010