Many of us don't like playing the whole game about genetics,so many of us have been breeding snakes 4 ALOT of years and we try to help each other, not play games with each other.......Myself and others have worked hard to get SOME of the genetics that we have been lucky enough to get that 1/1024 odds.......Anyone can say that a snake is this or that, the only way to be sure is through breeding trials,which takes some time.......Many of us are still working hard on proving out SOME genetics and still haven't gotten any where in 5-8 yrs....I have had snakes that were though to be genetically one thing and after breeding trails find out that they may have had the "look" that they were not at all....Looks are one thing,ACTUAL genetics are a totally diffrent......Look at normal hets. ya never know what might be there genetically.....

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