>>I remember seeing Honduran milks in captivity in the 80s, and they were freakin monsters compared to any I see now. I remember seeing Amealco ruthveni that were offspring of the Lloyd Lemke ruthveni wild-caughts. Those things were enormous as well. In fact, those were the first ruthveni I saw in my life, and I went away thinking ruthveni were big fat tricolor kingsnakes. Years later I got some generic ruthveni, and they grew up to be much smaller than those fat Lemke pig ruthveni. Could be a locality difference or a captive breeding trend towards smaller animals.
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You may be on to something concerning captive size decrease.....

I still think that out of an entire clutch of any species of king snake there will be a stubborn feeder no matter how many generations you line bred it for.....But you could possibly see some improvement in overall percentile of feeders......

BTW......Shannon and I are working with some of those Lemke monster Ruthveni right now (still).......
1.0 27 year old w/c Ruthveni
2.2 Offspring of his
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John Lassiter
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