That statement really shows what kind of person you are Jerry. To bad, too.



The points I try to make here are normally based on the appreciation of snakes as a whole. Not merely the morph or color pattern or how well they do in conditions forced upon them



In your case, why do you have Zonatas? Do you like them for the snake they are and what THEY DO? or do you like them because you can seperate yourself from the pack and work with a group thats not commonly specialized with?



You appear to have super pretty individuals of many types. Which is very unnatural. The colors are, not you. hahahahahaha



On occasion we field herpers wonder why folks keep all these goofy(to a field herper) morphs(exceptionally pretty ones are also a morph) Then keep them in drawers where you cannot "SEE" the beauty of the snake. You cannot observe its prettiness and you cannot observe its behavior(the real beauty of a species)



Then it becomes apparent, folks keep them that way, like they would other collectibles. Like baseball cards. They have a set, working on a better set of cards. You take them out to show others(take pics then show them here) then put them away. But do you watch them. And if so, watch them do what?



Well, to me this baseball card mentality has taken away what is unique about snakes, their behavior. And only cares about looks and how easy it is to keep them. Husbandry is taken to the most basic simplest form. Also everything is taken away from the animals your suppose to love/admire/appreciate. They are not allowed to behave in anyway other then mate, with whom you choose, lay eggs, recoup and do it again(with another mate of your choice)



What is odd to me is, what the frog beans do you think they do in nature. How do they set about feeding, growing, fighting off disease, finding mates, finding nests, avoiding predators(no laws out there to protect them) How do they find and use the conditions that support their lives?



I really do not mind if YOU JERRY take all that away from your animals, after all, their are yours. But it seems that appreciation of the animal is becoming a thing of the past. All anyone cares about is the next color phase or morph.



So Jerry, I come here and attempt to allow some folks(not you) to think, to wonder, to dream, about what these wonderful animals really are.



Whats funny is, in the field, these snakes are ALWAYS picking something, they are picking temps, which includes a range of temps during one day, they move to here, to there, and then to another place based on temps and task. This changes as the year goes by and the years go by. They are pairing up, sometimes staying with the same male for many years. Then at times finding a new mate if conditions change(the mate dies)



They have behavioral systems, and subsystems, and sub-subsystems as life and conditions change. Yet, in a cage, we give them, winter and summer and put a male in when its "TIME".



What's funny is, most here do not know when or how to tell what that "TIME" is.



So much of that is "overlooked" that it does allow me to understand why morphs and fantastic color patterns are what is sought after. And please, there is nothing wrong with that, but it seems so much of each snake is overlooked. The part that is overlooked is what is SPECIAL about those snakes, its what makes them, THEM. In fact, all of that is what allowed for your pretty snakes, that pretty was in their genotype, even if its not a normal phenotype.



I guess your problem with Bluerosy on this thread is, he didn't kiss your bum. Well he didn't kiss mine either, he simply appreciated my approach on this single thread.Cheers

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