and I appreciate your response, but Frank what you're failing to acknowledge is that amny folks have said directly to you how they felt sleighted or spoken down to, and instead of acknowledging it and apologizing, you further downplayed it. I'm not fabricating that, as I'd never target someone just to be a pr*ck. It has been my numerous observations.



I believe ALL keepers are not perfect either, and we NEVER will be. That's a clear fact. We can NEVER duplicate nature no matter what we do. And I accept that (painful) reality, and I think you do too. Frank I want to get along with you, really i do. But it's your manner of delivery to "get people to think" that just is so bitter and tweaked that it just turns some off. I have no reason to not like you, although I don't believe in and will never endorse the practice of intentional hybridization and vehemnetly disagree with you on it, it doesnt mean I'm targeting you personally. Maybe some past arguments have gotten heated, but simple, direct, and kind information is best received....AND you can still make people think at the same time.



Why not try that on for size, is all I'm asking. You ask me to think about my captives, and indeed i have. You've encouraged me to make a few changes. And I have. And they're working. So for that thank you Frank. But in turn I ask you to think about how you approach others in your attempt to teach. I don't think there's anything at all wrong with that, and why that's not more widely accepted (although it already is by the majority as evidenced by past support both via posts and personal emials I've received after our prior arguments) is beyond me.



Bottom line is that we need each other as much as our captives need us. Never take humanity out of the hobby that we all cherish, as it makes it all that much more enjoyable.



Be well, and have a Happy Mother's Day as well. I hope going forward we can both "think" in ways that we wish for each other.
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Jerry Kruse

www.zonatas.com





And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

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