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FR
at Wed May 12 11:02:17 2010 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]
Something is completely wrong with you, that is personal. I offered tips from experience. I seem to be the one promoting a "different" method, so if others are willing to test that, I should be willing to voice my experience with allowing the animals choices.
Also, your coming from a control issue standpoint. Or so it seems. If you allow snakes the choices they need, their goal is to recruit, Period, same in nature, same in captivity. Also if you place roadblocks in front of them and that hinder their abilities, they will fail.
In captivity, we wall them into a set of conditions, those are not the conditions they are evolved to fit into. Then recipe keepers tell them what to do, this temp, this food, this winter, this spring, this fall, etc. Only problem is, we/you are telling them WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY NEED. What you receive is marginal and average results.
In nature, roadblocks that hinder their success are there, only the animals have abilities to make the most of what nature provides. In good years, plenty of food and water, they EXCEL they can reach their genetic potential in growth and reproduction. In medium years, they produce average or spotty growth and reproduction. In poor years, populations decline.
Back to captivity. Telling them what to do is ALL ABOUT YOU. Allowing them to make their own choices tells you what they are and what they can do(by natural design)
In short and how it effects this forum. In captivity, you cannot make them grow to fast or breed to much. That is limited by genetics, you can only explore their genetic potential. But you can make them grow less and recruit less. You can also interfere with their ability to withstand disease and the impact of reproduction(to suppress their natural abilities)
We all know that in nature, they are tough as nails and can withstand massive injuries, they also naturally carry huge parasite loads without problem. Yet in captivity they are fragile and weak and succumb to any parasite load.
In short, because you are afraid to admit you do not understand these wonderful reptiles and you have to treat them in a very controlled way. You do not want others to gain any insight into these animals. These animals can and do thrive in very extreme conditions, they do so because they know what conditions to seek out and utilize in nature. And your comfortable taking that away from them.
The truth is, I am happy for you. But sir, there are others who really care about the animals and understand there is more to them then a shoebox, newspaper, waterbowl and a mouse once a week. Oh and not allowed to be a reptile(the use of many body temps)
Oh and sir, about personal, yes, I am talking to YOU the person, and your talking to me the PERSON. and we are talking about our different aspects of captive husbandry. So yes, its very personal, I have hoping your not the BORG. or this is not a borg ship. It is futile to resist, you will be absorbed. You will be one with the forum. Nope, this place is full of persons and it is personal. I am not the Borg.(star trek, look it up)
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- My experience with choises.. - Tony D, Mon May 10 14:10:39 2010
- Thanks for that Tony.... - byron.d, Mon May 10 14:16:29 2010
- RE: My experience with choises.. - KevinM, Mon May 10 15:06:01 2010
- RE: My experience with choises.. - JKruse, Mon May 10 15:56:48 2010
- RE: My experience with choises.. - snakeeyes1618, Mon May 10 16:12:03 2010
- RE: My experience with choices.. - CrimsonKing, Mon May 10 16:43:29 2010
- RE: My experience with choises.. - bluerosy, Mon May 10 17:06:11 2010
- RE: My experience with choises.. - FR, Mon May 10 20:25:13 2010
- I got some problems with your theory - Jeff Schofield, Mon May 10 21:18:02 2010
- nothing is absolute.... - Joe Forks, Mon May 10 21:24:54 2010
- RE: I got some problems with your theory - FR, Tue May 11 08:28:52 2010
- As usual... - Jeff Schofield, Tue May 11 14:39:44 2010
- WRONG! - Bluerosy, Tue May 11 14:58:18 2010
- The equator goes through FR's back yard! - Jeff Schofield, Tue May 11 15:01:00 2010
 RE: The equator goes through FR's back yard! - FR, Wed May 12 11:02:17 2010
- ! - Jeff Schofield, Wed May 12 14:25:33 2010
- RE: ! - Nate83, Wed May 12 23:49:46 2010
- RE: ! - Jeff Schofield, Thu May 13 00:16:10 2010
- RE: As usual... - Tony D, Tue May 11 15:19:20 2010
- RE: My experience with choises.. - Tony D, Tue May 11 08:56:39 2010
- BAD choices - Jeff Schofield, Mon May 10 20:46:16 2010
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