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RE: And so it begins

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Posted by: DMong at Thu Dec 23 18:11:57 2010   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by DMong ]  
   

That is a SMOKIN textbook nelsoni I used to have in the early 90's. Scott Ballard and Shannon Brown remember that killer specimen, and their eyes popped out of their heads when they first saw this guy..LOL!. He had the ultra-wide arching black rings, high RBR count, huge white snout, broken incomplete first black ring under the throat and the whole nine yards!. Every single feature he had was simply text-book stuff meristic-wise. He looks identical in every respect to the holotype in K. Williams ~Systematics~ from the Acambaro/Guanajuato,Mexico area.

I owned him just prior to the appearence of the amel nelsoni, which of course in turn caused everyone that didn't have any genuine nelsoni(which were MOST folks actually) to cross just about all the sinaloae in the market into them to produce more $2,000 dollar amels since there were FAR more Sinaloans out there than any nelsoni.

GOSH I wish I still had him!. I had a really nice female for him too back then from Gary Sipperly, but she wasn't quite as nice as him though. He was just an un-freakin real specimen!

Anyway, good eye John!, because he was such a nice specimen, people today are not even used to seeing one like that in the hobby. The vast majority in the hobby are mediocre intermediate crosses of both.


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