YEAH.....I'VE FOUND SEVERAL WHAT I'D TERM FRESH HATCHED "SUBS"....when i was in country in early summer....and i 've heard that overwinter theory several times from guys i'd think know whats goin' down out there.....they tend to be later breeders and ovidepositors than other alternaland snakes....anyone able to get them walking frogs this spring????

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