I really like subocs but searched a long time before I found the first pair, which impressed me so much. Then when I got these I was even more impressed. I had spent some time gabbing with the breeder and we emailed back and forth a few times, so when he said he had something I might like, I trusted him and was not disappointed.

One of my snakey friends was visiting and when I lifted the lid on the tub with my female Hueco, he just melted. Took a while to get that out of the carpet, too--I had to call in a Carpet Python.

....Right--anyway, he's been after me to breed them for a few years and hopefully this is his lucky year. I'd like another pair myself since there is no way to replace these until the original breeder's holdbacks are old enough to breed.

I also have a pair of locality Panther Canyon animals, which did breed last year. Not all the babies turn that famous Panther Canyon orange, but I kept a few which did. They turned orange during hibernation. We'll see how orange they are when they mature.

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• one other resident in the collection - 53kw, Fri May 27 21:11:22 2011
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• thanks for the compliments - 53kw, Sat May 28 13:53:58 2011
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