Yeah that does seem pretty ridiculous.

I would like to know if a patternless northern was ever found and bred though, to shed light on the claim of co-dom meaning legit and recessive being a southern cross.

I saw some of the pics of your pines below and that black and white northern is incredible. I want!!!!

I guess its my opinion that locality specific pits will always have their loyalists and morphs almost have to be produced with locality being sacrificed in the end. Different strokes for different folks. But what you described was just plain dishonesty. If you advertise a northern pine it should, to the best of your knowledge, be a northern.

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