Cingulum are also quite something. These are the sonoran coachwhips out of Arizona, they can alternate banding between pink and baige, and I have one right now that alternates bright red and tan, it's a beautiful animal, also completely tame, she's never even offered to bite.

I was always under the assumption that the coachwhips from eastern and south texas were eastern coachwhips. I saw one on the Cravens website that was a textbook eastern, from south texas, it was mostly black with tan towards the end of the tail.

Some of the coolest looking easterns are on the snakes of arkansas website. Just go to the gallery and look at the coachwhip pictures, some will make you DROOL.

I like piceus as well, but so far I've found them to be more high maintenance than larger coachwhips. They tend to like smaller meals, higher temperatures, and seem much more nervous than most coachwhips.

BTW, can anyone post a picture of an all-black eastern? I have yet to see one that was completely black, though I have seen a picues that was all black.

Kevin

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