You guys simply have to be kidding.

EricWI and USARK. Please explain to the world how anyone in their right mind can expect FWS/DOI to take the herp community seriously when you (A) Claim victory in the clear absence of such and (B) then call then cheats and liars.

Calling opposition and liars will only harden their resolve. Doing so shows a clear only shows that the ones saying such SHOULD NOT BE IN THE POSITION THEY ARE IN. This is proof of a total lack of understanding of the political process. One could guess this from the resume presented by the principals of USARK.

Do you expect them to be up front and honest at the negotiating table after having been called a cheat and a liar? No. I thought not.

Any person with the ability to think and reason the facts through can see that the loss of burms and afrocks (while reasonable) is no "victory". Read further and you learn the non-listing of the remaining Eunectes species and Boa constrictor is not a "save". It is simply a tactic called incrementalism. Now USF&W has a true victory with burms and afrocks. They'll use that as proof it was a good idea and then list the remainging Eunectes species and Boa constrictor. The press release was very clear. These species are still on the table and not "saved" by any stretch of the imagination.

Anybody claiming victory and calling the feds cheats and liars is the real liar. And on top of that they are fools.

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