FR:" That said, If you are trying to nest lacies, I would recomend using a method that has worked in captivity, deep leaflitter, a nest box made out of wood(George Horn style, he did that way before crocdoc) Hollow logs(a natural wooden box) or deep warm soil. All these have been successful."

There, was that really that hard to say? My original post was that I think it's a good thing to add a heated nest box for breeding lace monitors - not to replace the deep substrate (which I think is good for monitors in general, anyway). Had you said the above, it probably would have stopped there, but instead we've had pages and pages of to-ing and fro-ing, with everything from denials that wild lace monitors nest in termite mounds to the old 'results' chest-beating, pissing-contest rant to accusations of repeated success being 'boring'.

You say that what keeps you away from this forum is that people want to make it about individuals and winners and losers, but the reality is that what keeps most people away from this forum is you wanting to make everything about individuals and you trying to make it about winners and losers. More specifically, about you having to be the winner. Everything everyone does is wrong, what you do is right. There can be no information exchange, information has to flow in one direction - from you to everyone else. I (as well as several others) stopped posting here years ago because every thread seemed to end up exactly as this one has (with the added bonus of the moderators jumping in and removing selected bits of the thread). Normal conversation was, and is, impossible, unless people are kowtowing to you. It gets old really quickly.

And yes, I was aware that Hans-Georg used nest boxes long before me (as did many people in Australia). I've never claimed to have pioneered it. Possibly the only thing I've added to the concept is thermostatically controlled heating and a couple of other minor tweaks, but I probably wasn't the first to use those, either.

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