Anthony, We are obviously only “lucky” that we have not lost any of our reptiles with the way that we have chose to handle and care for them. Murr is the all mighty who knows the only way to care for all so no matter what input we have to add with just our personal experiences is wrong. I agree that from the start all reptiles are “force handled” by being in captivity. Each animal is different and requires different methods of care. If the animal is “attacking” it is already stressed from the start. This is a form for people to provide help and share their experiences, not to fight with each other. If someone doesn’t agree be an adult and just explain your reason and let the one asking decide which method works best for them. You are free to share you concerns as to what may not be a good method but again share your reasoning as to why it is not a good method and let that be the end. I am not trying to start arguments with anyone and that is why I have chose not to respond after my first post.

Every animal has different personalities and requires different methods of care. As an owner/ keeper you are taking the responsibility of doing whatever is required to provide your individual animal what it needs to live a full and comfortable life. To each his own.

Best regards and best of luck, it seams the one thing all of us have completely agreed on is time and patience, but what method works for your situation is for you to find. Stress is a bad thing for the reptile so know your limits and don’t test them.

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