hahahahahahahaha I have no problem with the people that are all about the people. hahahahahahahahaha

I don't have a problem with them because, its not about them. As you know, those people are everywhere in all walks of life. People are either helpful or not. I choose to try and help. ITs a free country, they can choose whatever they like.

he folks like VanPerry, tend to say, your right BUT! hahahahahahahaha how about saying, your right, and then add to what is right. But they cannot bring themselves to do that.

In the field under harsh conditions, these fine animals are eating like pigs(hahahahahahahaha) breeding like flys, and growing like weeds etc. The point is, PEOPLE say, that captivity is better because we can eliminate all the harsh parts and the predators and the cars that run them over. And give them all the food they can eat and make their cages IDEAL. PERFECT etc.

Yet, all that ideal, lots of food, etc, is extremely rare in captivity. What is common, is marginal everything. In a sense, they keep them in total lockdown and solitary confinement. With the least amount of support. AND CALL THAT GOOD. From my point of view, I simply cannot call little boxes good. Sorry, I see their real homes.

My son is working with Westerns and I am working with Mexicans. He surfs the internet and tells me that most peoples breeders are tiny. The pictures I see confirm that. I do and did ask, and as you see, no one will give a real answer. Why?

Of the wild adults(breeders) I have seen in nature and I have seen a lot, they are 24 to 28 inches. The males, are 20 to 25 inches. And yes, dinky males at 12 inches, will attempt to breed. The problem in nature is, they are competing with the big boys and the results are not so good.

In captivity, shouldn't they be bigger, not smaller, eat better, not worse, etc etc.

Lastly freedom is important, why do people not understand, they are free to change OR NOT. No biggie either way. Not to the people. pt. 1

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