So you see they are quite capable to brumate themselves.. Also I guess you did not understand what FR was saying in his very first posts about this (make sense now, so you should read again).. Hopefully it will come together and you will be able to put the pieces of the puzzle together. But remember, it is only a puzzle to you because you are indoctrinated for 10 years without thinking outside the box a little.

A newbie will understand more quickly and can emulate what we are suggesting and digest it better because they have not been doing the breeding and the cooling and all the things "we" thought we were accomplishing by "us": breeding the kingsnake when in fact the snakes can do it all by themselves-with less work for the keeper, I might add.

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