Here I get to whine a bit. The point of testing is to reproduce an observed behavior, that is what naturalistic observation is for. My whining part is, I flat do not understand how people think. They want to learn something then do as little as possible. That is, they want to learn but not in a realistic manner. They(not all, many) seem to let the clutter that restricts learning get in the way.

I tend to hear, I can't because of "this and that" or They make it A or Z and not the million levels in the middle. Or make it about "forever". All That is clutter.

Its only a box with dirt, anyone an everyone can do it.

Consider, in the first picture, if that was an adult gravid kingsnake, the area under the AC is at least ten times larger then the box I showed in the pics(plan view) And much deeper.

So what I did here is very minimal to start with.

People see what I did and reduce it. WHATS WITH ALL THIS TINY CRAP? One day, someone will do "more then" and I will pass out dead. So DO IT.

When I was produced lots and lots of colubrids, I had six boxes, that's all it took. Also because I kept groups, You can put several females in one box, if needed. In nature, many kings communal nest. So its normal. part 3

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