The problem is details, while you and others will say, dirt or deep and such, I have no idea what that means, pretend your a reporter, who, why, what, where, when. Only different, describe details of dirt, cage, box, etc. That is what is important.

Folks say, FR your assuming this and that. Of friggin course I am, if you do not say anything important, I have to assume.

Lets look at this from another angle. A MODEL. the model we should use for Cal king nesting is what they do in nature. So what do they do in nature? And better yet, why? Why is better because its the REASON, they do what they do. As I type this, there are millions upon millions of female kings in nature that are now gravid and getting ready to nest. Millions upon millions, and in, what six states(Cal kings) millions upon millions. I ask, how many will be seen by herpers? Also as I type this, there are hundreds upon hundreds of herpers flipping rocks and boards and logs and all manner of stuff looking snakes. Yet, few to none will find eggs and only a few will find gravid females. out of millions upon millions. So where are the eggs? While all these herpers are hunting these snakes, so are millions upon millions of predators, from all the natural predators, from insects to bears. To cats and dogs. Am I making a point yet. Where are these millions upon millions of eggs? Lets say, got me, I don't know where they are, the snakes hid them. And Is what they do and why? so predators cannot find them. So its very easy to see, its important to them. To hide the eggs must be of real value and they do that for reasons of survival. pt1

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