Kings do that.

So how this relates to science, ask question(to test) in a way that will teach you more, not in a way that will teach you less. Small cages, small nesting, teach you less to nothing. Larger cages and larger nesting allow you to place more variables so you can learn more. Remember, science is to understand what is not understood and to correct what is misunderstood.

Its my opinion that my problem comes from this, the advent of rack systems hinders the ability to learn(about the animals) Follow the instructions and it works(to a point) Because these systems are blind keeping(you cannot watch them without disturbing them. and there is very little the animals can do. No reason to make choices when there is no ability to make them. So its a poor way to learn. There is no A or B to choose from. Newbies start with this, then think the animals are stupid. As the animals in racks are mindless, do nothing units. No sir, its the people who are stupid. Not ignorant, as we/you, know better.

You Kyle said some of this torture is inevitable and you may be right. But that does not make it the right thing to do. What should be inevitable is, doing what is ALSO right for the animals in the box. What is also inevitable is, losing the right to keep animals. I have said this a million times, if you kept a dog or cat or horse, or mouse like that, you would be fined, have the animals confiscated, even jail time. Whats funny is, government does not care about snakes, we are the ones who supposedly care about them, yet we are the ones who as you say, inevitably keep them in a minimalistic way. To the extreme. Odd I tell you. Best wishes

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