particularly the culture of keeping in the western states. There was a bit of a herp revolution and it was centered in the west. I think Ross is working on something like that.

All this stuff you see now, sprung from commercialization of captive bred herps, and that indeed came about in SoCal(the hollyweird effect of setting fashions) By giving snakes value, it supported products, magazines, etc etc etc, reptile shows did not occur when snakes had no value.

Albino kings were what started that revolution. And only because I learned a valuable lesson. I use to give snakes away, and most died and died quickly. So when I started hatching Albino cals, I swear to not ever give them away and to put a really high price on them. I did not care about the money so much, I was interested in all the natural Cal king morphs and set out to make albinos in all of them and I did. And holy moly, it made me a lot of money too. I did the right thing, but for the wrong reasons, hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Others Actually put it all together, by building and controlling markets. That built a value that helped all the species we see today. Value is the strongest conservation tool the animals have, as well. A TWOFER, I like twofers, but not as much as threefers

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