There is more, It was Bill Garska that found the area by accidentally road cruising two(a pair) one cold rainy night. If I remember correctly, he had given up on road hunting and was helping out a couple of stranded girls get back to town, when he found them. He wrote a paper on montane kings and I was his field guy. We inspected all the preserved kings and their localities.

Bill was an odd person and we got along well. One of the first Thayeri he found was a wonderful lite phase leonis type, Almost like a speckled alterna. He did not like that snake, so he traded it to me for the ugliest Blairs I had ever seen, a female rearly all black.

Bill was also the one who brought the albino Q kings into captivity. The first one of those was found in a lizard trap by a Herp student. They wrote a short note on how it was the missing link between Mexicana and milk snakes. Bill and Erine Wagner went down and found three Q kings. He bred them and gave some offspring to a herp student(friend) of his. That person hatched out some albinos, he then offered them back to Bill. But Bill didn't like albinos and said no, I don't want them. Right after They found #2,3,and 4 Q kings, Bill drew me a map as to where they were found, and I went there. The map included where to find the best carnitas in all of Mexico. hahahahahahahahahaha Anyway I went to the known site and it was destroyed. We had checked into a hotel, but then checked right back out. While heading out saw a nice area to investigate and my friend said, naw, lets go to find thayeri. Oddly I made a U turn and went down a dirt road, parked and we found 3 in ten minutes. We went back to town and got our hotel room back. We found 27 in the next day. Which was sad, my permit was for six, but most were large adults and I wanted neonates. So I kept a pair, we then went to N.L. and I found the Black Thayeri, and a few normal. So we went back to Q. to release the Adult Q kings. This time, there was all sizes and phases.

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