FR, I will answer you one more time. Everything I have stated is correct as far as I know. You probably live in a house that is well insulated...I do not. Mobile homes have thin walls (they are trailers). I lost my AC/heat system this summer, when we were getting a string of days over 115 degrees. I recorded a temp of 143 degrees at the thermometer mounted on the side of the building one day. That's when I ordered/installed the window air in my bedroom window. It was rated for a room more than twice the size of my bedroom, but just manages to keep the temp down to 81 degrees running full blast on a hot day. I moved the snakes into that room to keep them alive, so I wouldn't have to keep putting frozen jugs of water in the tanks. Now it is winter, with several sub-freezing nights so far. I can see the frost coming out of my mouth, inside the trailer sometimes, so I use a small electric heater in the bedroom only, to save on electricity.....my electric bill last month was still 80$. You are probably right about one thing; This is not a good situation for keeping snakes. I could spend the 8,000$ that the AC guy quoted me for replacing my system, but I am too cheap. I already mentioned here,(twice), that I do not want to build a snake room, meaning an out building that is well insulated, like brick or cinder block, then add heat and AC; I don't want to spend that kind of money just to keep snakes. If the under ground system that I proposed does not work, I will get out of the hobby; It will be too expensive, considering it is the least of many hobbies that I spend my time and money on. If the system I described does work, keeps the snakes healthy and happy and saves me the time/trouble of maintaining the tanks, I will post it here, with pictures, for everyone's benefit. (except yours, of course, who I am convinced will never accept the idea, no matter how well it works out). Cheers

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