return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
 
Click here to visit Classifieds
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Promoting Reptiles is Our Jam Man . . . . . . . . . .  Origins of Chytrid discovered . . . . . . . . . .  Wisdom Wednesday - The Forums - The water is warm... Come on in! . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake.com Past, Present and Future . . . . . . . . . .  IHS Celebrates 50 years . . . . . . . . . .  End of January 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Fun Fact Friday - Green Tree Monitor . . . . . . . . . .  The Evolution of the Osteoderm discovered . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS Expo Jan 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Diamondback discovered in new Texas county for first time . . . . . . . . . .  Expo Setup . . . . . . . . . .  Reptiles greater than Golden Globes . . . . . . . . . .  Meander Monday . . . . . . . . . .  Update: Release mobile friendly!! . . . . . . . . . .  Reptile Super Show Pomona California . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake.com at Pomona Reptile Super Show . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Mar 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - Mar 28, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - Mar 30, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Apr 01, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Apr. 18-19, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Apr 18, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Apr 19, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Apr 24, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - April 25, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Big Sky Reptile Expo - April 25-26, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 
Join USARK - Fight for your rights!
full banner - advertise here .50¢/1000 views
Click here for Dragon Serpents
pool banner - $50 year

RE: New to Snakes, help/advice needed

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Kingsnake Forum ] [ Reply To This Message ]
[ Register to Post ]

Posted by: markg at Wed Feb 1 01:12:28 2017  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by markg ]  
   

Kingsnakes are subterranean by nature, meaning they do not typically climb branches to bask. They get their warmth from the warm ground or ground cover warmed by the sun. They go deeper underground to cool off and avoid hot, dry conditions.



It does not matter much if the air temp is 68 deg. The snake's belly is on the cage floor, so the snake's internal temperature is more affected by the cage floor temperature. During cool weather the CHE can help, but the screen top lets out most of that heat.



A better approach, and simpler (simpler is better usually) is to get rid of the overhead heater and cover 80-90% of the cage top with something like cardboard covered in aluminum foil or even cheap towels and only use the undertank heater. During Summer, you may want to remove the cover, as you will not need to keep heat in very much at that time.



Glass conducts heat really well, aspen does not. I would set the controller for the heat mat to be in the range of 82-84 deg. Above the warm glass, put a shoebox-sized plastic container or a clean Cool-Whip container with a cutout in the lid. Fill the container loosely with damp sphagnum moss. That can be the warm hide. Let it dry out before moistening it again. Kings love hides like this. You can put substrate all around the warm hide and in the rest of the cage, but let the warm hide touch the glass or at least be close to it. Don't set it 2 inches up on top of aspen, that is not useful, and the glass under the aspen just gets hot while the top of the aspen stays much cooler as you have seen.



Depending on the ambient air temps and humidity in the room, you may have to adjust the heat mat temp setpoint a bit, but 84 is generally high enough for kings to digest, and 90 is usually too high if left on all of the time. Cool air temps in the 60's are just fine for kings, especially this time of year. It is the belly heat that matters. Humid hides as described maintain gentle heat and does not dry out the snakes. Overhead heat does dry out snakes (when using screen tops).


   

[ Reply To This Message ] [ Subscribe to this Thread ] [ Show Entire Thread ]


>> Next Message:  RE: Forgot to add - markg, Mon Feb 6 17:58:23 2017

<< Previous Message:  New to Snakes, help/advice needed - dwl0222, Sun Jan 29 12:54:12 2017

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You Click here to visit Classifieds Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-