>>"As far as improper identification - I'm not improperly identifying them. If someone in the future identifies them as something they are not, that's their bad - not mine"



You just identified the very problem that WILL happen down the line!....that is EXACTLY what will happen. It's not just THOSE particular snakes will be confused by many later on, it's ALL their offspring too that will end up being bred to anything similar to create yet MORE mutt snakes that end up in collections and being bred to more still. All this practice does is help dilute the other pure forms that are in the hobby.



Of course this is something that too many people today don't think matters at all, and they just don't seem to grasp the "big picture", they just want to see what sort of "look" they can produce. Then after that project gets old(not long at all), they move onto another ridiculous pairing that srves no purpose either.



Everyone thinks that "their" project will be sold and represented honestly,...when the fact is as soon as those mutt snakes leave the vending table, they(or most), and the offspring they will later create, will simply end up being sold later on as whatever they "best" represent.



I see this type of scenario ALL the time.......the buyer doesn't quite recall what combination he/she was told it was by the seller,....no records are kept, another buyer only remembers "part" of what they were told at best,....uhhh, so and so told me they were this or that......then later get on the forum and post a pic, and ask..."what is this?"..LOL!...that's the "problem". If you cant tell what species or subspecies a snake is by looking at it,.....THERE'S A PROBLEM!



So to sum this up,...your statement about it being..."someone else's bad - not mine",...is actually ass backwards!,.....it IS YOUR BAD!, because their true identity WILL be uncertain as they are sold to whoever, and bred to whatever in the future.



If everyone in this hobby had tons of experience, and could tell what they were looking at at the drop of a hat, that would be one thing,..but this certainly ISN'T the case..LOL!



If the snakes looked VERY distinct, and they just SCREAMED a cross of some kind, they wouldn't be such an immediate threat per se(although future breedings certainly could depending on what they were bred with), it's when a snake looks VERY similar to something it isn't that makes a big problem, such as those you produced.



Please don't take all this as a personal assault, I'm just trying to explain how the dynamics of all this in the hobby realistically evolves, that's all.



The bottom line is if an experienced person with adiscerning eye CAN'T tell what species/subspecies something is ,...that will create the problem later on, guaranteed.





best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

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