> Not saying this is universaly the case but the pattern seems to hold.<



I really don't want to argue. I am truly tired of all the tiresome rants we all engage in instead of our appreciation for Kingsnakes.



All of our experiences are our own and I can't disqualify anyone elses because they aren't mine and I'm sorry if they have indeed been negative. All I can add is mine and it has been that people of faith whether coming from a creationist mindset or open to God using all sorts of other means to express Himself in nature are caring responsible people. Some truly walk as Pharisees, religious people that angered even Jesus,more into rules and regulations than compassion. That is very unfortunate and embarrassing for folks really trying to walk their faith and live it out the best they can realizing they are imperfect people but trying to move toward the goal.



It is at times a very difficult issue for people of faith to deal with conversations about evolution etc.



On the one hand you do not want to be a sell out like the folks in the old testament that at times embraced any old thing a new culture exposed them to and forgot about being faithful.

On that other hand some folks of faith do not want to be a part of the crowd that did terrible things to folks that embraced that the world is round(even though other cultures where aware of that fact long before the dark ages)and believe science should not be feared because truth is truth.



In my opinion there are too many powerful folks on many levels spoon feeding people what they think they should know instead of just looking at the facts and deciding for themselves.



I don't wish to be attacked or start a whole big drawn out thread. Just trying to maybe help explain how some folks feel. I respect Tony and do not have to see things the same way to show respect for the man.



Happy herping folks.Sorry for the length of the post.



Let's get back to snakes and go clean cages! YEAH!!!!

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Sometimes I think the kid with two pet snakes has something that those of us with 50 to 200 lost a long time ago.

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