Zach to be honset I thought your post was a bit condescending and sort of like an FR impersonation. A lot can get read into posts that wasn't meant the way we read it. The Pyros don't JUST sit out in the open they move from warm to cool to moist cool to dry cool.They are not in my opinion doing the Cage crazy thing FR talked about where snakes are acting like they are sort of out of their minds and not adjusted properly.



Zach, I think they don't act like any Pyro you've seen in the wild because they are captive bred. I'm sure they have a lot of the same instincts as Wild brethren but they have never been hunted down and had close calls by predators. Never even got a wiff of a predator with that Jacobson organ and get their food hand delivered pre killed, sort of like Dominos. They have lived a pampered life like most everybodies snakes here and I think they are smart enough to adapt and lose a lot of their normal fear. Kind of like the birds and squirrels that get fed in the park by people. Learned behaviours (Hope Tony and FR don't see that " Behaviour" word LOL )I think they are out often because theres minimal fear not neccesarily that I'm not giving adequate choices.(I hope)



I have had some snakes in my collection for close to 20 years(even w/o humid hides), bred Bluetongues for around 18 Kept Shinglebacks, couldn't breed THEM and was keeping snakes in aquariums with dirt on the floor because Aspen and plastic cages weren't even around in the 70's(at least that I was aware of by me)



I am just a typical longterm hobbysist with nowhere near the list of accomplishments of folks like FR, Tony and a lot of the other ccol folk on here and while I certainly could/maybe should use narrower hides for the Pyros the post was about being intrigued with FRs ideas about keeping snakes actively supported all year w/o letting them cool down. I failed with using these particular snakes as my experiment but that's ok. They are healthy and suffered no harm.



Billy was just trying to look out for me and I think that was darn nice of him. How about we just chalk this whole thing up to taking things the wrong way and move on.



Bob.



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Sometimes I think the kid with two pet snakes has something that those of us with 50 to 200 lost a long time ago.

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