>>The original "school bus" king came from Andy Barr and Mike Falcon.....as per Mike.
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>>I think that is correct. I remember talking to Mike Falcon and Anyy Barr back when the expo was still in Orlando (circa 1992) and Mike said they originated the first one. I think ( I think)they said they had a pair or the w/c was a female and the all babies were lost in a laundry room accident...or at least something to that effect....


When I talked to Mike a few years ago, he told me the original was a HUGE male close to 6'. He and Andy had used it with several females. From what I remember him telling me, this would have been around 15-16 years ago, as you say 92ish. Mike and Andy both had invested interested in this line, held back lots of offspring, then sold the male to Len. Eventually Mike sold his animals from the line, I'm guessing to work with more hondurans......and Andy has vanished from the face of the earth. lol.

As you said, any time you talked to Andy you would end up confused by his stories. He did tell me back in 2000 or 2001 that he bred goini into the "dream kings" but did keep some "pure". This is where his "fruition" line came to.....fruition. Although later on, he tried saying the fruition kings did not have goini blood in them. Who knows?

All I know is, the sulfur line is worthy of keeping alive. It's good to know there are a few others out there.
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• Sulfur Lavenders - Boneyard, Mon Feb 23 18:10:29 2009
• RE: Sulfur Lavenders - Bluerosy, Mon Feb 23 18:33:41 2009
• RE: Sulfur Lavenders - Brandon Osborne, Mon Feb 23 19:52:02 2009
• RE: Sulfur Lavenders - Bluerosy, Mon Feb 23 20:04:19 2009
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• Funny coincidence there... - foxturtle, Mon Feb 23 19:28:45 2009
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• Perception vs reality - LP, Wed Feb 25 08:00:52 2009
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• RE: Funny coincidence there... - CrimsonKing, Mon Feb 23 20:09:19 2009
• % Sulphur... - ZFelicien, Tue Feb 24 16:45:48 2009
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• I disagree to some extent... - foxturtle, Tue Feb 24 21:54:11 2009
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• Sure... - foxturtle, Wed Feb 25 21:53:31 2009