Posted by: LP at Wed Feb 25 08:00:52 2009

I think there were still plenty of breeders that didn't hybridize or kept them separate and represented the animals accurately and honestly (it takes both).
I was a vendor at one of the early Tampa shows right next to this Vendor A, or let's call him Vendor AB. I heard his descriptions and explanations for several days and they changed rapidly and frequently based on what and how the questions were asked. For example, he repeatedly said his amel goini were completely pure. The next day I asked if the origin was a captured snake or they just popped up in a breeding. He said the amel was from cal kings and since it was several generations ago it was now "pure". I know that word can initiate debate as to it's definition but that wasn't how I would ever define it. No, I really couldn't take the accuracy of his lineages very seriously after that day. But I gotta admit some looked pretty. They just weren't what I wanted.
I'm not trying to open the old can o worms, I'm just trying to give a little insight as to why I personally viewed some hybridizing breeders differently and was forever more cautious and skeptical.

Yeah i remeber those years at the Tampa show. I was there. For the most part what you said about vendor AB is true. But those were the last years he was in business that he mixed his stories up. He got into trouble (drugs) and previously he did represnt his animals honestly. I guess it takes a few years to get to know someone and for the most part this vendor/breeder was honest up up until his last two years in business. Drugs will do that to you. So during the time before that he did have pure sulfurs and he did breed them into lavenders ect. His goini, to me at least, were obvious crosses.

However the question you asked him if the goini were pure and he said they are because of several generations is true . Once an animal is bred back a certain amount of times all DNA becomes that animal. In farming this is especially true. Also most species ARE evolving as we speak. natural crosses and even hybridization takes place in the wild and are absorbed into one other the other parent animal. What we have as "pure" really originated from something else. Things are constanly changing in nature.

Now there are some peopoe who have a hard time wrapping their heads around all this and that is what causes the debates.

AB was ahead of his time he just didn't have the character to marketing skills to advance what he was doing. What he did in breeding was fantastic. What he did to represent them was havoc. But his animals and things he accomplished was great. Unless you knew him for a certain amount of time and talked with him over the phone (something i think a person should do anyway if they are so interested in history of animals)he had his hands into a LOT of projects.

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