Thanks for the response, I lived in Houston when I got him and he was not on any added heat, he lived in an air conditioned room. Now that i've lived in Chicago for the past two year he definitely has not been exposed to high temps. I got him at a reptile show from John Cherry's son of Cherryville farm. To my knowledge he is a reputable breeder with a long standing reputation so I don't think the hybrid theory applies in this case. I just hope he completely changes...eventually.

Thanks,
Miller

>>I have a yearling pair that are both jet black already.
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>>I have seen a handful that just never fully changed. I have heard theories that the temps are too warm but I don't know if that holds any water. What are your temps? I have also heard that there could be some hybridization at work.
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>>It would seem to me like there is a natural spectrum from fully black to somewhat banded. Any Panamanian field herpers want to chime in? hahaha
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1.1 Florida King
1.1 Eastern Kings
1.1 Black Milksnake
1.2 Kankakee Bull Snakes
2.2 Still Water Hypos
1.1 Possibly stillwater x Red Bull
2.2 N. Pinesnake
0.1 Tangerine Honduran
0.0.1 Black Ratsnake
1.0 Chow Chow (2003 Papi)
0.1 Cats (Shug)

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