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Zach saidOK so when have you used dewormers? If you get a snake that is underweight, has weird loose stool, and no history about the animal what would you do? Set it up properly and hope for the best? Set it up properly and run a fecal? Set it up properly and treat prophylacticly?



No, I have never had a need to treat colubrids. not even transient male green rats. Early on, say thirtyfive years ago, I lost snakes. But, now, no. Overheating is a huge cause of parasite blooms. That is, not allowing snakes to cool. allowing decent temperture ranges is really what THEY DO. Its not a need thats only to bother keepers.



I ask you, how do wild snakes exsist with parasites when they are reinvested with EVERY meal??? Particularly such daily feeders as lizards. How sir??????









Zach said, In truth your comment earlier was the very first potentially negative thing I have heard about using dewormers (aside from a few specific known problems). I consider them to be some of the most benign drugs out there. Many are not even absorbed by the body. I would love to hear more about how many monitors this happened to, what meds were used ect. Were the effects permanent or the year after deworming did they come back and breed? I am sure that over the years that you decided to stop treating you were also learning and adjusting your husbandry, what makes you think the problem was with the meds?



As you said, there is little known on what these and other meds DO TO REPTILES. The point here is, we are working with reptiles. This goes for behavior too. Most behavioral models are with mammals. And of course do not apply to reptiles, YET reptiles DO HAVE A COMPLEX SOCIAL STRATEGY, unfortunately, there are not specific terms for reptiles. They are social, but clearly not mammmalian social. They DO utilize parental care, but surely not mammalian parental care. Etc.



Same with meds, which of these meds were developed specifically for reptile usage????? none you say???? I am trying to make a point.



Its a good thing snakes can and do cure themselves, or I would be in big trouble.



Not to pound history to death, but I have had many world first breedings with KINGSNAKES. That means they were with wildcaughts, and may I add, that did not have to be treated for anything. I would think you would ask why? Not ask me why, but why could the animals do that. Cheers





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