im in houston you mean you in bryan and aint never made it the houston ETHS expo? well shoot ya gotta come next year... anyway i wanna address a few things...





>>>All of this said, you keep hybrids so you should know what they look like. If the yellow holbrooki was part cal king it should have a spot on the crown or three spots or would maybe have a solid crown with a dot like desert phase cal kings, and the nap of the neck should show a more cal king marking as well. It should be showing at least one or more of these traits but it doesn't show any of them. So thus this is why I say I feel it is pure holbrooki.



>i do and have kept hybrids. crosses especially backbred would not neccasarily show any of those traits. i feel the individual in question has calking in it but who knows??? so you feel because it lacks these calking traits that makes it pure holbrooki? you do know holbrooki dont yellow out like that dontcha? also it looking normal speck as baby and then turning that yellow is a clue as no holbrooki do that.





>>>I know it is for sure not part cal king. Anyway even if say it is and doesn't show it in its markings at least some of the offspring will. So when it gets bred we can all know for sure what it is then for sure.





for sure WOW bold statement there, see if what i think its banana/speck amels backbred to speck and with each subsequent backbreeding to speck yes it eventually be a speck... but the wash of yellow is not natural speck, but yes breeding it to a speck your gonna get specks the calking is pushed out each generation but now... can these animals produced in this scenario by marketed as pure trueblue l.g.holbrooki?



>>>If it is a hybrid it would have to maybe be a hybrid with nigra or floridana maybe but not cal king. But I doubt that it is part nigra due to too many specks in eack scale. It should have at least some reduction in speckling if it was part nigra. If it were part floridana there should be at least a little difference in the crown markings. Holbrooki and floridana in some places can look amazingly alike, but there is some difference in color and the speckes on holbrooki are smaller and the floridana has them larger to the point of them making eack scale just bordered with the dark color.





>certainly could be any or any combo of the above, backbreeding is likely how this was acheived.



>>>Either way the proof will be for sure when the yellow produces offspring and we can look at the color of them and there markings to learn more. I am willing to bet they will all look pure holbrooki.



>well yeah! if he breeds it with a trueblue l.g.holbrooki of course they will all look holbrooki and ill bet none of the normal hets will develope that yellow wash with age and only a very small percentage of their amel offspring will develope the yellow wash i beleive its being washed out with the cali or whatever, but i certainly could be wrong. looks arent everything.
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