>well yeah! if he breeds it with a trueblue l.g.holbrooki of course they will all look holbrooki and ill bet none of the normal hets will develope that yellow wash with age and only a very small percentage of their amel offspring will develope the yellow wash i beleive its being washed out with the cali or whatever, but i certainly could be wrong. looks arent everything.

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okay you didn't bet, but you are refuting it will happen. If there are only two snakes like this at present, of course not many of the amels will have it, so we might assume. Stuff happens, all the time, I'm sure you haven't seen it all yet. What about the new "old" stuff Rainer and ZF are doing in brooksi? I know they have already advanced into crossing goini into it but what about before? When the weird stuff started coming out in their pure stuff?

I think that guys like Tom, Rainer and ZF are right, we have just started scratching the surface. I bet all the genes are there, within these snakes, for all the combos we see and more. I am not as into the morphs as you are, but when I see it happen in my own room with locality stuff in the F!'s, I start to think I was wrong about a lot of my previous thinking.

I know the yellow exists in that spectrum, I have some almost there myself. Why is it so impossible for you to believe? I've NEVER seen any Cali with as much yellow as a holbrooki, normal or morph.
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Todd Hughes

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