"ALL CAPTIVE PAIRINGS ARE UNNATURAL DOUGLAS GET A CLUE"

That is quite obvious "Dung-Beetle" Davis, and always HAS been!. I never said captive pairings WHERE natural, because the "natural selection" is then gone, but when two genuine subspecies are bred to one another, the offspring will STILL REMAIN that certain subspecies they originally were for others to enjoy and breed in the future!. I was simply EXPLAINING WHAT TODD SAID IN HIS POST TO YOU, you know WTF he meant ANYWAY!, you just want to twist things around so they are convenient for you hopeless argument.

However, when YOU do these types of hybrid/man-made intergrade breedings in your plastic tubs, YOU are taking the genuine subspecific identity away from the animal forever, and contributing to the diluting of other animals in other people's collections to enjoy down the road, simple as THAT!!....whether YOU like it, and want to hear it or NOT!. Whereas I and many others that breed genuine subspecies continue the subspecific integrity in the snake to be identifiable as a certain type of snake for others to be able to identify as a certain type to enjoy for many more years. Your mindset immediately ruins that, and the snake becomes just a serpent with no real meaningful identity.

Your junk will never affect me or MY animals however, because I have too many good sources, and nice genuine stuff of my own, and have too much knowledge to be fooled by most all these undecernible abominations in the hobby, but it WILL CERTAINLY contribute to placing unidentifiable snakes into OTHER folks collections that do NOT have a vast amount of identifying experience.

So to sum this all up, no matter how long or far you continue to roll that huge dung-ball, these facts will NEVER change my friend....NEVER!

By the way, I very much LIKE that natural wild hybrid that Diego's friend captured, because it WAS a natural occurrence!, and not something some shlep produced in his plastic tub in his basement. And if one happened to breed another similar clutch sibling to that one that was ALSO found in the wild, that would be ABSOLUTELY FINE with me too, because two wild animals created it, and not some disregarding hybridizer.

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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