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JKruse
at Thu Feb 4 10:23:24 2010 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by JKruse ]
Oh indeed, they ARE awesome and definitely something to love. I also have crosses which are the ones that pump out the hypo-e snakes which I make very clear. It's about honesty and education, as there are some folks that have what they think is a pure Juarez or a pure Martir when they actually don't. Sad, but true. Soem people will do anything for a buck right down to mis-representing what they produce or re-sell.
My hypo-e snakes have the heads of a Juarez, the male has the body of a Juarez, but the female has more of a Martir build. Both have very tight bands indicative of Martir influence as well. Many agalma out there today are related to the Martir/Juarez crosses created by a couple individuals back in the early/mid-90's. Every year it seems someone else comes outta the woodwork showing me their agalma and I'm like "uh oh, there's something else going on there". Some accept it, and some don't.
The snakes posted in the other forum I know the history on, and for Jeff Teel (jeph) I feel horrible for as he got the old screwball on what were promised to him to be pure Martirs when they, in fact, were not. I refer to the albino alterna example once again......take two very different snakes, then intentionally breed the offspring over generations to the snakes that have the desired "intentional look", and voila.....you have what appears to be something pure, but as Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic Park, "life finds a way"......slight nuances can be detected phenotypically. From my VERY Juarez looking hypo-e's, I always get one out of the clutch that looks more Martir than it's siblings.
So again, just pointing out the differences for educational purposes and the "buyer beware" factor or those that care about some level of "purity" and historical data. 
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com
And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."
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RE: Martir versus Juarez agalma head pics... - JKruse, Thu Feb 4 10:23:24 2010