Through the course of many years, there have certainly been a very small number of genuine amel Easterns(L.g.getula)pop up here and there from different sources, but there has also NOT been genuine amel Easterns pop up here and there that were derived from intergrade lineage from any combination of several other kingsnake subspecies. These being the Black king(nigra), Speckled king(holbrooki), California king(californiae), or any percentage of either of these with varing percentages of genuine Eastern king in them.



Doug, that was totally confusing to me and I know whats going on,lol. How do you expect a newbie to interpret that? While we can aknowledge that the original animal of the most popular line may have been from an intergrade zone....its not like it has been outcrossed to any of the other ssp. you mentioned and misrepresented. Captive breeding is all about refinement of genetics as much or more than about their "preservation". Most would agree that it would be no more correct had the hobby kept this line "pure" and bred only to other intergrades....and they wouldnt be as nice looking as they are today. Suffice to say they are getting better, like most morphs. And lets face it, its about what they LOOK like not where they are from. Its a morph after all....

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• are there pure albino eastern kings - SurfinSerpents, Tue Mar 9 21:51:46 2010
• Now let the "fun" begin...n/p - brhaco, Tue Mar 9 22:52:55 2010
• RE: are there pure albino eastern kings - Jeff Schofield, Tue Mar 9 22:59:54 2010
• RE: are there pure albino eastern kings - KevinM, Tue Mar 9 23:48:57 2010
• No, there are none - bluerosy, Wed Mar 10 09:41:34 2010
• RE: No, there are none - Jeff Schofield, Wed Mar 10 11:57:16 2010
• RE: No, there are none - DMong, Wed Mar 10 12:24:53 2010
• Subspecies are arbitrary definitions - Jeff Schofield, Sat Mar 13 01:44:31 2010
• RE: are there pure albino eastern kings - DMong, Wed Mar 10 11:46:29 2010
• RE: are there pure albino eastern kings - Jeff Schofield, Wed Mar 10 12:12:30 2010
• RE: are there pure albino eastern kings - DMong, Wed Mar 10 12:56:29 2010
• also, just to make it clear - DMong, Wed Mar 10 13:09:59 2010
• RE: also, just to make it clear - KevinM, Wed Mar 10 15:32:33 2010
• RE: also, just to make it clear - DMong, Wed Mar 10 15:55:49 2010
• Here Here! LOL!!!!!!! n/p - Patton, Wed Mar 10 19:40:55 2010
• And it all tastes like chicken doesnt it - Jeff Schofield, Sat Mar 13 00:27:02 2010
• SHO' NUFF! - DMong, Sat Mar 13 01:17:10 2010
• Dont substitute suspicion for research!! - Jeff Schofield, Sat Mar 13 01:14:30 2010
• RESEARCH???..LOL!!! - DMong, Sat Mar 13 02:47:39 2010
• Its not all about Doug, LMAO - jeff schofield, Sat Mar 13 03:27:57 2010
• RE: Its not all about Doug, LMAO - DMong, Sat Mar 13 11:32:43 2010
• RE: Its not all about Doug, LMAO - Jeff Schofield, Sat Mar 13 12:08:09 2010
• RE: Its not all about Doug, LMAO - DMong, Sat Mar 13 18:10:50 2010