Hi Jeff, Yes in my experience, nearly every population has changed color over time. I think this is very natural.

I think we need to consider what the genotype means, It is the genetic possibilities that any snake in a population or individual can produce. This would include, odd balls and albinos if they every exsisted in a population.

I think each population has a set variation that can occur. And over time, the phenotypes do change and then change again and back and forth again and again. All within the genotype.

Its odd, but snakes cannot make up new anything if its genetic. Not over a very short time. So all the morphs and color types we produce, MUST be in their genetic possibilities, the genotype, or they cannot express it.

When we see something new(to use) its actually something old and unused to them. Something they did in the past. Thats what inbreeding does, express unused traits.

This is a very very interesting subject. And we know so little about it. Cheers

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• hybrids, integrades, and truth? - stu, Thu Jun 10 07:13:12 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - snake_bit, Thu Jun 10 07:47:25 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - stu, Thu Jun 10 08:46:54 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - a153fish, Thu Jun 10 08:53:54 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - stu, Thu Jun 10 09:03:55 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - FR, Thu Jun 10 09:14:42 2010
• This is true! - a153fish, Thu Jun 10 09:28:44 2010
• RE: This is true! - Dobry, Thu Jun 10 11:35:07 2010
• explain - a153fish, Thu Jun 10 20:10:10 2010
• RE: explain - Dobry, Mon Jun 14 13:21:02 2010
• RE: explain - Aaron, Mon Jun 14 22:48:06 2010
• RE: explain - Dobry, Mon Jun 14 23:37:43 2010
• RE: explain - Aaron, Tue Jun 15 03:09:20 2010
• RE: explain - Dobry, Tue Jun 15 10:17:34 2010
• RE: explain - Tony D, Tue Jun 15 10:54:00 2010
• RE: explain - Dobry, Tue Jun 15 11:24:08 2010
• RE: explain - Tony D, Tue Jun 15 14:09:20 2010
• RE: explain - Aaron, Wed Jun 16 00:35:15 2010
• RE: Maybe I can help - FR, Thu Jun 17 18:25:14 2010
• GREAT INSIGHT!!!!!...np - Jlassiter, Thu Jun 17 20:03:31 2010
• Kinda pretty corns... - BobS, Fri Jun 11 01:40:45 2010
• Thanks Bob... - a153fish, Fri Jun 11 09:37:48 2010
• RE: Thanks Bob... - ChristopherD, Fri Jun 11 10:56:01 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - FR, Thu Jun 10 09:04:55 2010
• Thanks FR! - stu, Thu Jun 10 09:46:19 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - bobassetto, Thu Jun 10 10:09:48 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - FR, Fri Jun 11 08:17:26 2010
• FRANK! - Tony D, Thu Jun 10 10:17:19 2010
• sorry I missed this. - stu, Thu Jun 10 20:40:16 2010
• RE: sorry I missed this. - Tony D, Fri Jun 11 08:25:32 2010
• RE: sorry I missed this. - FR, Fri Jun 11 08:55:10 2010
• RE: Tony - FR, Fri Jun 11 08:30:28 2010
• RE: Tony - Jlassiter, Sat Jun 12 00:07:46 2010
• RE: Tony - Tony D, Mon Jun 14 09:13:23 2010
• What is mtDNA ? - BobS, Mon Jun 14 10:28:31 2010
• RE: What is mtDNA ? - Jlassiter, Mon Jun 14 20:02:08 2010
• Thanks John n/m - BobS, Mon Jun 14 22:32:15 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - PWalreadytaken, Thu Jun 10 10:30:26 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - Upscale, Thu Jun 10 11:17:46 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - texasviper619, Thu Jun 10 11:51:00 2010
• nice and fluffy - stu, Thu Jun 10 12:05:08 2010
• RE: nice and fluffy - texasviper619, Thu Jun 10 12:19:53 2010
• now that had some bite to it!!! - stu, Thu Jun 10 12:36:08 2010
• RE: now that had some bite to it!!! - a153fish, Thu Jun 10 20:06:19 2010
• lmao! - stu, Thu Jun 10 20:30:30 2010
• "Top of the pile"??? - Jeff Schofield, Thu Jun 10 23:51:21 2010
• RE: "Top of the pile"??? - a153fish, Fri Jun 11 02:21:47 2010
• RE: "Top of the pile"??? - varanid, Fri Jun 11 12:38:35 2010
• RE: "Top of the pile"??? - PHFaust, Sun Jun 13 09:13:39 2010
• RE: "Top of the pile"??? - a153fish, Sun Jun 13 10:45:05 2010
• RE: "Top of the pile"??? - PHFaust, Sun Jun 13 23:30:07 2010
• I posted that name - Jeff Schofield, Sun Jun 13 10:57:41 2010
• RE: I posted that name - a153fish, Tue Jun 15 16:29:00 2010
• RE: nice and fluffy - Aaron, Mon Jun 14 00:32:48 2010
• RE: nice and fluffy - BobS, Mon Jun 14 22:48:34 2010
• forgot.... - BobS, Mon Jun 14 23:10:34 2010
• And from these theories we get - Jeff Schofield, Mon Jun 14 23:24:43 2010
• RE: forgot.... - Aaron, Mon Jun 14 23:47:51 2010
• RE: nice and fluffy - FR, Fri Jun 11 08:39:49 2010
• We might actually agree!! - Jeff Schofield, Fri Jun 11 12:32:49 2010
• RE: We might actually agree!! - BobS, Fri Jun 11 15:59:36 2010
• RE: We might actually agree!! - a153fish, Fri Jun 11 17:23:49 2010
• RE: We might actually agree!! - Jeff Schofield, Fri Jun 11 22:26:07 2010
• RE: We might actually agree!! - FR, Sat Jun 12 09:27:52 2010
• That helped Frank thanks. nm - BobS, Sat Jun 12 09:46:37 2010
• RE: We might actually agree!! - CrimsonKing, Sat Jun 12 09:47:37 2010
• Natural and manmade examples - jeff schofield, Sat Jun 12 10:28:15 2010
• RE: Natural and manmade examples - Upscale, Sat Jun 12 10:44:10 2010
• They are WITHIN a range, not have a rang - jeff schofield, Sat Jun 12 11:18:46 2010
• RE: They are WITHIN a range, not have a rang - Dobry, Tue Jun 15 11:51:00 2010
• RE: Natural and manmade examples - FR, Sat Jun 12 21:02:26 2010
• RE: We might actually agree!! - jeff schofield, Sat Jun 12 10:43:00 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - markg, Thu Jun 10 12:46:27 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - Jeff Schofield, Fri Jun 11 00:05:48 2010
• RE: hybrids, integrades, and truth? - stu, Fri Jun 11 08:43:36 2010
• Learn to ignore the idiots - Jeff Schofield, Fri Jun 11 11:22:09 2010
• preaching to the choir - stu, Fri Jun 11 11:36:41 2010
• Lol - texasviper619, Fri Jun 11 13:24:40 2010